The plot was destined to be a bit of a mess by it's very nature. When Moxxi, Lilith, and Roland nearly kill him at the end (especially when Lilith destroys his pretty face) THAT is when he becomes the Handsome Jack of Borderlands 2. At that point, he comments about how the kill 'felt kind of good.' When he kills the scientists, he reacts to the murders with a great deal more enthusiasm and cold-hearted joy. Now, Jack begins losing his good-guy facade with every murder he commits, starting with the Meriff. The eye was Jack's trump card, and I think there's a plot hole where we never learn what the eye really meant to Jack, only that he coveted it the way that Gollum wanted The One Ring. Zarpedon was trying to save everybody from the horrors that she saw inside the vault, which I assume was her motivation for destroying Elpis (that last bit is just my opinion because her motive was never made obvious, and only hinted at in the ECHO message you give to her daughter). Jack didn't want Zarpedon to blow up Elpis because he knew that there was a vault on the moon and HE wanted it. Zarpedon got in the way of Jack and HIS precious eye at the center of Helios' laser. She saw through Jack's duplicity and she'd travel to the ends of the universe to stop his egomaniacal quest for power.ĭid Jack ever care about Elpis? No, he sure did not. Think about it: why are Scooter, Ellie, and Marcus not in this game? Because it wasn't THEIR fight, it was Moxxi's. Moxxi and Jack had already broken up before the game starts, and Moxxi seems to have been on the moon because it was the closest she could get to Jack so that she could more easily destroy him. My opinion is that Jack never WAS a good guy, he only lost the ability to hide his true nature over the course of the game's events.

So anyway the point of this thread is what you think of the ending? Do you think the possible 3rd game being a mmorpg or using the same gameplay?ĮDIT- Yes I read that there is no plan for BL£ at the moment, I mean an off chance in the future when they do make a sequel eventually.

would you think an mmorpg Boderlands 3 would fair better than Destiny? Granted they can still used the same formula I guess (if it's ain't broke, why fix it?) but I'm pretty sure another same game starting new 4-6 characters in the 3rd game could be repeatitive by then (well it depend really seeing how COD and Halo can get away with it) but I don't see 4-6 more Vault hunters as alot if they need as much people as they can since they can throw that title 'Vault Hunter' onto anyone who want loots!Īlso anyone know how Destiny is doing (I don't owned the game) as in the gameplay wise (I know it been getting mostly plain/ poor reviews and the loots is bad in that game). So the ending reveal that guardian seen at the start of the game that saved Athena life (they never explain what that guardian deal other than I think that is the guardian mention in the Echos) and claiming they need all of the Vault Hunters they can get since 'war' coming.Ĭombining that ending and 2 ending (it was reveal there are more vaults on other planets), I'm starting to think that the possible Borderlands 3 could be an mmorpg like Destiny. Oh one last nikpit was that depite they had made the contructor and produced the robot army needed, they never shown any of them in action other than the ones you repair in the station! Some anti climatic battles! Regardless what a certain hipster has said that in Jack point of view, he's the 'good' guy, he was still a douche! He lost it when he told the Vault hunter to killed that defeated Dalh soldier before the gunship boss fight as he laugh at the possible idea that soldier live turn around for the better. The real traitors being Moxxi, Roland and Lilith drove him to the edge and beyond with that punch which I don't get why Lilith didn't killed him there and then given he was suppose to be killed at the eye destruction. He was willing to spared enemy lives but Meriff betrayal annoyed the hell out of him and the possible traitor in the group lead him to killing Gladstone and the other innocent scientists. Granted I suppose the progression from John to Jack kind of make sense as it seen he has some of an trust and paranoia issuses to deal with. Sure they try to potray Jack/ Jophn being a good guy at the start of it but it's hard to try to 'like' him for all what he did at 2. The story was somewhat iffy but hey I still enjoying kicking the Guardians arses.

It's the same game I know even with the new mechanic but that what I liked about the first game. The game is pretty much what I expected which is a good thing.

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